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		<title>By: james p mcgee</title>
		<link>http://baires.elsur.org/archives/the-irish-in-argentina/comment-page-1/#comment-106643</link>
		<dc:creator>james p mcgee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am beginning family research on my great grandfather&#039;s 2 brothers and 1 sister  [FAMILY NAME ---MCCORMICK  ] who immigrated from Ireland to B A about 1850 -1870. We have very little info other than a &#039; tin &#039; picture of the 2 brothers and understand one of the brothers married the daughter of a rancher in the late 1800&#039;s .



I am also having difficulty accessing your data bases, any help would be most appreciated ,regards , Jim Mcgee</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am beginning family research on my great grandfather&#8217;s 2 brothers and 1 sister  [FAMILY NAME ---MCCORMICK  ] who immigrated from Ireland to B A about 1850 -1870. We have very little info other than a &#8216; tin &#8216; picture of the 2 brothers and understand one of the brothers married the daughter of a rancher in the late 1800&#8217;s .</p>
<p>I am also having difficulty accessing your data bases, any help would be most appreciated ,regards , Jim Mcgee</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest checking the Irish in Argentina web site mentioned in comment 6 above. 

I haven&#039;t personally encountered any Irish settling here lately, but I wouldn&#039;t be surprised. There&#039;s quite a number from the U.K. &amp; U.S. that have moved here for the lower cost-of-living. Of course, there are few jobs in Argentina, so either a Web-based income or savings is needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest checking the Irish in Argentina web site mentioned in comment 6 above. </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t personally encountered any Irish settling here lately, but I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised. There&#8217;s quite a number from the U.K. &amp; U.S. that have moved here for the lower cost-of-living. Of course, there are few jobs in Argentina, so either a Web-based income or savings is needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Broin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean O'Broin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 01:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a record available on the lives of these people from Ireland who emigrated to Argentina in the 1920s? (Can&#039;t help thinking you are seeing a trickle of Irish people emigrating today to Argentia, given the state of the Irish economy?) 
From your Time on 1920:
New wave of Irish emigration to Argentina owing to social upheaval in Ireland, particularly young professionals and employees from Cork and Dublin, some with Church of Ireland background (1923).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a record available on the lives of these people from Ireland who emigrated to Argentina in the 1920s? (Can&#8217;t help thinking you are seeing a trickle of Irish people emigrating today to Argentia, given the state of the Irish economy?)<br />
From your Time on 1920:<br />
New wave of Irish emigration to Argentina owing to social upheaval in Ireland, particularly young professionals and employees from Cork and Dublin, some with Church of Ireland background (1923).</p>
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		<title>By: Sean O'Broin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean O'Broin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the downturn in the Irish economy today, are you seeing a new, if not tiny, wave of immigration from Ireland to Argentina. It would be kind of ironic as not long ago some of Irish descent were trying to come to Ireland to work -- and they&#039;d have been most welcome. I live now in the U.S. but when I lived back in Ireland about 25 years ago, I ran into some families who had strong family ties to Argentina. For instance, a friend in Ireland had an elderly aunt from Longford who emigrated to B. Aires. Also, I had the distinct pleasure of once meeting an elderly returned Irish-Argentine gentleman who settled out his last days in a nursing home in Co. Longford. His parents, then deceased, were originally from Longford and I was fascinated as he recalled their and his familu experience --including the language of communication. Any feedback welcome. I&#039;d love to take my family to BAires and have my daughters step dance in the Irish club there one day -- and take in a side visit with some friends from Argentina I&#039;ve gotten to know in recent years.
Feedback?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the downturn in the Irish economy today, are you seeing a new, if not tiny, wave of immigration from Ireland to Argentina. It would be kind of ironic as not long ago some of Irish descent were trying to come to Ireland to work &#8212; and they&#8217;d have been most welcome. I live now in the U.S. but when I lived back in Ireland about 25 years ago, I ran into some families who had strong family ties to Argentina. For instance, a friend in Ireland had an elderly aunt from Longford who emigrated to B. Aires. Also, I had the distinct pleasure of once meeting an elderly returned Irish-Argentine gentleman who settled out his last days in a nursing home in Co. Longford. His parents, then deceased, were originally from Longford and I was fascinated as he recalled their and his familu experience &#8211;including the language of communication. Any feedback welcome. I&#8217;d love to take my family to BAires and have my daughters step dance in the Irish club there one day &#8212; and take in a side visit with some friends from Argentina I&#8217;ve gotten to know in recent years.<br />
Feedback?</p>
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		<title>By: Irish Roots</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irish Roots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone interested in Irish ancestral research might also be interested in Irish Roots magazine.  Irish Roots magazine is completely dedicated to Irish ancestry and incorporates the entire island of Ireland.  Irish Roots magazine is a valuable resource tool for anyone tracing their Irish ancestors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone interested in Irish ancestral research might also be interested in Irish Roots magazine.  Irish Roots magazine is completely dedicated to Irish ancestry and incorporates the entire island of Ireland.  Irish Roots magazine is a valuable resource tool for anyone tracing their Irish ancestors.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Linda, you should check out the web site for the Irish Argentine Historical Society: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.irishargentine.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.irishargentine.org&lt;/a&gt;. They can probably answer your question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Linda, you should check out the web site for the Irish Argentine Historical Society: <a href="http://www.irishargentine.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.irishargentine.org</a>. They can probably answer your question.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Egan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda Egan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I am from Cork City in Ireland and would like to know do you have an Irish newspaper for Irish immigrants or do you have a society were you meet up?

kind regards


Linda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I am from Cork City in Ireland and would like to know do you have an Irish newspaper for Irish immigrants or do you have a society were you meet up?</p>
<p>kind regards</p>
<p>Linda</p>
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		<title>By: Irish Sportsmen in Argentina &#187; Buenos Aires, City of Faded Elegance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Irish Sportsmen in Argentina &#187; Buenos Aires, City of Faded Elegance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] someone with Irish ancestry (way, way back), I&#8217;ve written a bit before about Irish immigration to Argentina. A great resource for this topic is the wonderful Irish [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] someone with Irish ancestry (way, way back), I&#8217;ve written a bit before about Irish immigration to Argentina. A great resource for this topic is the wonderful Irish [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Roche</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Roche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have become interested in trying to trace the descendants of my great uncle Bernardo Mahon who went to Argentina from Longford Ireland he is mentioned in Rosario census of 1895 can anyone help</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have become interested in trying to trace the descendants of my great uncle Bernardo Mahon who went to Argentina from Longford Ireland he is mentioned in Rosario census of 1895 can anyone help</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irish surnames are common here in Argentina Irish is the fourth ethnic group after Italians, Spanish (mostly Basques and Galicians) and Germans.

O&#039;Connel, O&#039;Connor, Lynch, Murphy just to name afew of the people I know with irish surnames.  




Friday, 18 March 2005, was Saint Patrick&#039;s Day.

The Irish Community and St Patrick&#039;s in Buenos Aires ....... 

The fifth largest Irish community in the world is in Argentina, and it&#039;s important to point out that Argentina is a non-English speaking country. 

Hence the more than 500,000 Irish-Argentinean families living in Argentina today are a great example in terms of traditions and cultural heritage power, surviving after over a century and a half taking in consideration the huge and inevitable language barrier. 

But Argentina was, and still is an official Catholic country with freedom of cult -for all the other religions and cults-, and this was a great input for those Irish catholics who were running away from the British protestant power. 

All and all, it were the broad and huge pampas who welcomed the new immigrants into a world of work in the fields and the posibility of surviving on something else than potatoes. The west frontier was still open -alike in the US- and by 1850s the sheep cattle grew at an amazing rate, together with Spanish and Italian immigrants, the Irish population that set in Argentina were helping this upcoming country to develop into a Nation. 

Argentina was built on those pilars of hard work and great tolerance, our culture has always been a melting pot in which all recognize their differences and similarities, were homeland traditions are preserved and new, local ones, are included, bringing up to life a unique combination. It shall raise no eyebrows then the great deal of importance St Patrick&#039;s day has in our country, not just for Irish families, but to us all in general -Irish, French, Italian, Spanish... all Argentines in one sense... Ireland patron, St Patrick is known worldwide for his works converting the Irish to Catholicism, he then -during the 5th century AF- needn&#039;t to root off the Celtic customs, but to lead them into a broader universe of beliefs in Catholicism, his didactic means to teach Godspeed using the shamrock have become a symbol of Catholic Ireland, and throughout the world March 17th it&#039; s the day of festivity to recall upon their Saint -who&#039;s also said to have taught the Irish how to distillate alcohol from malt and barley, hence the importance of beer in this celebration. 

Yesterday on March 17th 2005, Buenos Aires&#039;s most Irish quarter in Retiro area dressed up in Green and over 60,000 people celebrated St. Patricks, not with a parade but a street party throughout 10 blocks... During the days masses were celebrated at BA&#039;s Irish churches and throughout the Buenos Aires province, were the largest part of the Irish community is located. 

I was a superb party, filled with joy and excitement, loud and beautiful Irish folk music being plaid until early hours of the morning, dancing and celebrating. For the last 15 years this has been the preferential location for St Patrick &#039;s celebration in BA, specially growing in terms of non Irish participants for the great impact of Irish culture worldwide. 

But even before the great flow of immigrants came to Argentina, our history has been tied to Irish outstanding personalities ......... 

But did ytou know why we should celebrate Saint Patrick&#039;s Day in Argentina ? 

...........such as one of our nation&#039;s forefathers Admiral William Brown born in Foxford in 1777 he was to command a squadron of seven ships with which on Saint Patrick&#039;s Day in 1841, he captured the fort of Martin Garcia, called &quot;The Gibraltar of the La Plata&quot;. 

Following many successful battles, he acted as Argentine Commissioner throughout the Independece wars and even more he&#039;s doings seatled - when at the close of the war- the Liberty of Buenos Aires by the treaty of Montevideo on October 4th 1827. 

Just an example, not that we&#039;d tell each Irishmen and women&#039;s life&#039;s in our country, for not all are as renamed as Admiral Brown, but each and every one of them with their hands and loving heart helped this country, their country, to become a nation. 

Happy St. Patricks and may the luck of the Irish be yours today! 


Email Bob Frassinetti.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irish surnames are common here in Argentina Irish is the fourth ethnic group after Italians, Spanish (mostly Basques and Galicians) and Germans.</p>
<p>O&#8217;Connel, O&#8217;Connor, Lynch, Murphy just to name afew of the people I know with irish surnames.  </p>
<p>Friday, 18 March 2005, was Saint Patrick&#8217;s Day.</p>
<p>The Irish Community and St Patrick&#8217;s in Buenos Aires &#8230;&#8230;. </p>
<p>The fifth largest Irish community in the world is in Argentina, and it&#8217;s important to point out that Argentina is a non-English speaking country. </p>
<p>Hence the more than 500,000 Irish-Argentinean families living in Argentina today are a great example in terms of traditions and cultural heritage power, surviving after over a century and a half taking in consideration the huge and inevitable language barrier. </p>
<p>But Argentina was, and still is an official Catholic country with freedom of cult -for all the other religions and cults-, and this was a great input for those Irish catholics who were running away from the British protestant power. </p>
<p>All and all, it were the broad and huge pampas who welcomed the new immigrants into a world of work in the fields and the posibility of surviving on something else than potatoes. The west frontier was still open -alike in the US- and by 1850s the sheep cattle grew at an amazing rate, together with Spanish and Italian immigrants, the Irish population that set in Argentina were helping this upcoming country to develop into a Nation. </p>
<p>Argentina was built on those pilars of hard work and great tolerance, our culture has always been a melting pot in which all recognize their differences and similarities, were homeland traditions are preserved and new, local ones, are included, bringing up to life a unique combination. It shall raise no eyebrows then the great deal of importance St Patrick&#8217;s day has in our country, not just for Irish families, but to us all in general -Irish, French, Italian, Spanish&#8230; all Argentines in one sense&#8230; Ireland patron, St Patrick is known worldwide for his works converting the Irish to Catholicism, he then -during the 5th century AF- needn&#8217;t to root off the Celtic customs, but to lead them into a broader universe of beliefs in Catholicism, his didactic means to teach Godspeed using the shamrock have become a symbol of Catholic Ireland, and throughout the world March 17th it&#8217; s the day of festivity to recall upon their Saint -who&#8217;s also said to have taught the Irish how to distillate alcohol from malt and barley, hence the importance of beer in this celebration. </p>
<p>Yesterday on March 17th 2005, Buenos Aires&#8217;s most Irish quarter in Retiro area dressed up in Green and over 60,000 people celebrated St. Patricks, not with a parade but a street party throughout 10 blocks&#8230; During the days masses were celebrated at BA&#8217;s Irish churches and throughout the Buenos Aires province, were the largest part of the Irish community is located. </p>
<p>I was a superb party, filled with joy and excitement, loud and beautiful Irish folk music being plaid until early hours of the morning, dancing and celebrating. For the last 15 years this has been the preferential location for St Patrick &#8217;s celebration in BA, specially growing in terms of non Irish participants for the great impact of Irish culture worldwide. </p>
<p>But even before the great flow of immigrants came to Argentina, our history has been tied to Irish outstanding personalities &#8230;&#8230;&#8230; </p>
<p>But did ytou know why we should celebrate Saint Patrick&#8217;s Day in Argentina ? </p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..such as one of our nation&#8217;s forefathers Admiral William Brown born in Foxford in 1777 he was to command a squadron of seven ships with which on Saint Patrick&#8217;s Day in 1841, he captured the fort of Martin Garcia, called &#8220;The Gibraltar of the La Plata&#8221;. </p>
<p>Following many successful battles, he acted as Argentine Commissioner throughout the Independece wars and even more he&#8217;s doings seatled &#8211; when at the close of the war- the Liberty of Buenos Aires by the treaty of Montevideo on October 4th 1827. </p>
<p>Just an example, not that we&#8217;d tell each Irishmen and women&#8217;s life&#8217;s in our country, for not all are as renamed as Admiral Brown, but each and every one of them with their hands and loving heart helped this country, their country, to become a nation. </p>
<p>Happy St. Patricks and may the luck of the Irish be yours today! </p>
<p>Email Bob Frassinetti.</p>
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